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EPISODE: Carlus Gupton – Leading Calmly in an Age of Polarization
EPISODE DESCRIPTION
When political tension, cultural upheaval, and congregational expectations collide, how can church leaders remain grounded? In this conversation, professor, consultant, and preacher Carlus Gupton shares what it means to lead with clarity, calm, and conviction in an age of polarization. Drawing from years of coaching ministers and teaching on systems theory, Gupton unpacks why leaders can’t stay ahead of every issue—but can cultivate a non-anxious presence, distinguish biblical principles from political strategies, and model healthier dialogue within their churches. He also discusses the pressures leaders feel to “say something,” the danger of off the cuff political commentary, and the formative power of civil conversation paired with shared missional work. Gupton also offers a hopeful reminder: the church’s witness—rooted in moral excellence, compassion, and spiritual formation—still has the power to bless a fractured world.
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Carlus is from Mayfield, Kentucky. He began preaching at age 17 and has continued for over 45 years, broadening this work in 2001 to include training ministers. In addition to his current role as Professor and Director of the Doctor of Ministry, he is an interim minister, consultant, and coach, having served a few hundred churches for over 20 years. He has also taught at Harding School of Theology (2014-2021) and Johnson University (2001-2013). Teaching specialties include church leadership, spiritual formation, change, conflict, and biblical and theological studies. He also taught communication at the University of Tennessee (2001-2011). Carlus is also the founder and publisher of LifeandLeadership.com, a website with over 1,500 pages of resources for church leaders. I am partnered with a dedicated consortium of church consultants and coaches, Hope Network Ministries, who serve churches all over the world. He and his wife, Ann, have two grown daughters and two grandsons. Ann and Carlus live in Nashville, Tennessee.
Books Recommended or Mentioned
- Winsome Persuasion: Christian Influence in a Post-Christian World by Tim Muehlhoff and Richard Langer (2017)
- Winsome Conviction: Disagreeing Without Dividing the Church by Tim Muehlhoff and Richard Langer (2020)
- The Big Sort: Why the Clustering of Like-Minded American is Tearing Us Apart by Bill Bishop (2008)
- Dominion: How the Christian Revolution Remade the World by Tom Holland (2019)